Amber Heard mentioned that she believes that notes taken by her physician, during which she reported alleged abuse by Johnny Depp, would have made a distinction within the jury’s choice in her ex-husband’s defamation case. The notes, although, have been excluded from the six-week trial.

In the newest excerpt of her interview with NBC News’ Savannah Guthrie, airing on Dateline on Friday, Heard mentioned that her physician’s notes are a file of what she was speaking about in actual time, going again to the beginning of her relationship with Depp.

Guthrie mentioned that they reviewed the notes and so they confirmed “that way back to 2012, Amber was speaking about bodily abuse. In January of that yr, she advised her therapist Depp hit her, threw her on the ground. Eight months after that, ripped her nightgown, threw her on mattress, and in 2013, he threw her in opposition to a wall and threatened to kill her.”

Heard’s attorneys additionally confirmed NBC News textual content messages that have been excluded from the trial, together with one during which she wrote to her father, “He kicked me in entrance of everybody.” That message needed to do with a disputed incident during which Heard claimed Depp kicked her on a non-public airplane flight.

Depp has denied Heard’s allegations of bodily abuse. A spokesperson for Depp advised the community, “It’s unlucky that the defendant and her group are again to repeating and reimagining and re-litigating issues which have already been determined by the courtroom.”

A jury awarded Depp $15 million in his defamation swimsuit in opposition to Heard, discovering that she was answerable for defamation after publishing a 2018 op ed in The Washington Post during which she mentioned that she had develop into “a public determine representing home abuse.” The decide rapidly lowered the quantity to $10.35 million, based mostly on the state’s restrict on punitive damages. Heard, too, received a judgment, because the jury discovered Depp was answerable for defamation over an announcement that his lawyer made. But Heard’s award was simply $2 million.

Heard’s interview with Guthrie was her first post-trial interview, and NBC News has maximized the publicity for its unique, airing it in two components on Today earlier this week adopted by the hour of Dateline.

The Dateline episode featured parts of Guthrie’s interview that had already aired, however the hour maybe shed some gentle on why Heard agreed to do it, because it gave her one other probability to inform her facet of the story. But it was a model of occasions that the jury discovered unconvincing.

“They thought you have been mendacity,” Guthrie mentioned to Heard.

She responded, “I’ll put it this manner: How might they make a judgment, how might they not come to that conclusion? They had sat in these seats and heard for over three weeks of continuous relentless testimony from paid workers and in direction of the tip of the trial, randos, as I say.”

“I don’t blame [the jury]. … I truly perceive he’s a beloved character and folks really feel they know him. He’s a unbelievable actor….After listening to a few and a half weeks of testimony about how I used to be a non-credible individual, to not imagine a phrase that got here out of my mouth. I’m a hysterical girl. I’m a loopy. I can’t be trusted again and again.”

Heard defended the op ed that was on the supply of the defamation declare, arguing that it was not about her relationship with Depp however the situation of home violence and legislative reforms. But requested by Guthrie why she would write one thing that may fire up the couple’s relationship once more, given their divorce settlement, Heard acknowledged that was a degree that “I want was thought of extra significantly.”

One juror appeared on Good Morning America earlier this week and said that Heard “didn’t come throughout as plausible.” She claimed that she didn’t instigate bodily fights, however audio was performed throughout the trial during which she acknowledged beginning one.

“I do know a lot has been made of those audio tapes,” Heard advised Guthrie. “And as I testified on the stand, what you hear in these clips aren’t proof of what was taking place. It was proof of a negotiation, of easy methods to discuss that along with your abuser.”

Guthrie requested Heard, “He mentioned he by no means hit you. Is {that a} lie?” “Yes,” Heard mentioned.

Guthrie famous that no different girls have come ahead with claims in opposition to Depp.

“Look what occurred to me once I got here ahead. Would you?” Heard responded.

Guthrie additionally highlighted one other side of Depp’s case: Photos exhibiting Heard trying “unblemished” after the alleged abuse. Heard testified that a number of the images have been taken days and even weeks after the alleged accidents, Guthrie famous.

“What I realized in that trial is that it’s by no means going to be ok,” Heard mentioned. “If you’ve got proof, then it was a scheme. It was a hoax. if you happen to don’t have proof, it didn’t occur. If you’ve got a bruise, it’s pretend. If you don’t have a bruise, then violence clearly didn’t damage you. If you advised individuals, then you definately’re hysterical. If you didn’t inform anybody, it didn’t occur.”

She advised Guthrie that she hopes that the result “hasn’t had the chilling impact it might have on different individuals. I fear about that. But if I can look you within the eye, Savannah, and say, ‘I’m nonetheless right here,’ and perhaps that serves to stability out a number of the very. very actual concern others might have about coming ahead or talking out.”

Heard mentioned that she would “stand by each phrase of my testimony” to her “dying day.”

“My objective, the one factor I can for hope for at this level, I simply need individuals to see me as a human being,” she mentioned.

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