Producer/songwriter Kid Harpoon, a.okay.a. Tom Hull, has had a wildly profitable 2022 thus far, co-producing and co-writing each observe on Harry StylesHarry’s House (together with the Number One hit “As It Was”), in addition to doing the similar for Maggie Rogers’ rock-influenced second album, Surrender. On high of that, he labored on new songs for his longtime collaborators Florence and the Machine, in addition to Lizzo’s “If You Love Me.”

He labored on the Rogers and Styles albums concurrently, and was struck by the distinction between them. “I felt like we made a very masculine document with Maggie and virtually a very female document with Harry, which is type of attention-grabbing,” he says in the new episode of our Rolling Stone Music Now podcast.

In the new episode of Rolling Stone Music Now, Hull offers his first in-depth interview on the making of Harry’s House, whereas additionally speaking about his work with Rogers, Lizzo and way more. Some highlights observe; to listen to the whole interview, hear on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, or press play above.

The drums on ‘As It Was’ have been influenced by the Strokes. “I’m sitting there on the drums and I used to be like, oh, this might have a Strokes type of vibe,” says Hull. “Harry particularly has stated from the starting of working collectively, his actual type of like flag in the floor type of second is ‘I don’t wanna sound like anybody else. I need folks to be saying, that’s the Harry sound.’… ‘As It Was’ in phrases of like references, it isn’t essentially, one thing we set out, ‘we’re gonna do that,’ however you get to the finish and you hear it and you go, oh, it’s obtained the type of A-ha references and the Strokes references and perhaps there’s a bit of Talking Heads in there and then it turns into one thing greater than the sum of its components.”

He thinks Styles is on an inventive streak that he compares to Tom Petty and Radiohead – and he’s already eager about his subsequent album. “For me, , somebody like Harry, who’s clearly having an unbelievable yr, it’s like, let’s cease seeing this as like a one off and let’s have a run,” Hull says. “And this can be a second the place you’re creatively in an actual zone. Everything simply feels linked and you won’t be ceaselessly, ?… You can’t actually get a lot greater. You can, but it surely’s very minimal. But what you are able to do is simply get higher. He’s carved out an area for himself and let’s simply discover that extra. And what I might love is simply to maintain constructing. When I look again at, , whether or not it’s Talking Heads or, Radiohead and even Tom Petty, these artists went on a run the place they only knew they have been in a inventive stride and they only went for it. And that’s what I hope for going ahead with Harry is that no matter it’s subsequent, let’s not attempt and second-guess it, or do something based mostly on what we’ve performed earlier than. Let’s simply attempt and do one thing new and land someplace thrilling. And hopefully everybody’s as excited to listen to it as we’re to type of hear it as effectively. You know, I really feel like we don’t what it’s but. You know what I imply? And that might be something, which is the most enjoyable factor about it.”

Maggie Rogers explicitly wished to make a “rock document” with Surrender. “She actually wished it to be like New York 1977,” Hull says. “New York, streets, gutsy, sweat. Iggy Pop, all these type of influences. But then having that sample-y type of trendy twist on it too. That was an actual aware shift on her half.”

Hull, who made sturdy solo music in the ’00s, could make his personal music once more quickly. “Being an artist may be very, very troublesome as a result of it’s a must to have a singular imaginative and prescient,” he says. “You need to be very sturdy minded and I’m very open to concepts. I believe it actually fits me this aspect of producing folks, ’trigger I can get actually impressed by Maggie or Harry or Florence or whoever I’m working with and purchase into their imaginative and prescient. But now I’ve hit a degree the place I truly actually am craving doing one thing for myself – however I’m not gonna attempt and launch a pop document and go on tour and do movies and stuff. I believe it’ll really feel extra private.”

Two tracks on Harry’s House – “Boyfriend” and “Little Freak” – have been initially written for Styles’ earlier album, Fine Line. “‘Little Freak’ was truly produced and blended in an entire completely different model for Fine Line, but it surely simply didn’t really feel proper,” Hull says. The key to getting “Boyfriend” proper, in the meantime, was enlisting Ben Harper to visitor on acoustic guitar.

Hull needed to cease Styles from altering lyrics on “Watermelon Sugar” that the singer thought have been “silly.” “He was like, ‘Oh, ought to I modify these? And that is silly, this like, ‘I need your stomach, I need this… And it’s only a bit throwaway.’ And I used to be like, ‘But it’s so humorous. It’s so good!’”

He’s seen an enormous change in the business’s emotions about rock sounds in pop songs. “I bear in mind having a dialog with an A&R man, it should have been seven years in the past,” he says. “And I bear in mind him saying guitars are a very laborious promote on radio. And now, guitar is every thing. Like, you simply hear it in every single place. Even folks like Steve Lacy, who’s unbelievable, and then to Olivia [Rodrigo] – I believe she’s phenomenal.”

As Styles instructed Brittany Spanos in his newest Rolling Stone cowl story, Hull is very amused by the rumor that Styles is bald, in addition to all the different rumors that continually swirl round his good friend. “I don’t know if anybody is aware of if he isn’t truly bald,” Hull jokes. “I don’t wanna add to the rumors, however , perhaps, I don’t know! It’s so silly. Everything’s so silly. It’s humorous… I really like that that’s his place in tradition proper now. I like him to know the way proud I’m of him of that. It’s what all of us attempt to do – nobody strives to have information articles about them being bald, but when they occur, it means you’re doing one thing else someplace. They’re writing as a result of he’s very profitable proper now…. No one’s speaking about if I may be bald, which is a really actual concern!”

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